The Bookish Hour

Onyx Storm by Rebecca Yarros (part one)

• Jor & Fab • Season 1 • Episode 58

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Bookclub is BACK!! and it is FILLED with SPOILERS!!

This is the first half of Onyx Storm by Rebecca Yarros where we have read from the beginning to chapter 28 (read chapter 28 and STOP before 29)


We dive halfway through Rebecca Yarros' Onyx Storm, exploring its shift from romance-focused to military-heavy storytelling and what it means for the series. 

• First impressions range from "surprisingly good" to disappointment with the military focus
• Confusion about characters and military ranks creates reading challenges
• Violet and Zayden's relationship evolves into a more compelling slow-burn due to his Venin status
• Taryn's diminished role in this installment disappoints fans of the dragon-rider relationship
• The search for Andarna's family drives the main plot but sometimes feels disconnected
• Character growth, especially Violet's increased confidence and power, stands out as a strength
• Theories about Violet potentially having a second signet or different parentage emerge
• Inconsistent pacing with unexpected time jumps between chapters
• Final chapters of the first half show more promise and momentum


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Jordan:

welcome to the bookish hour with jor and fab, silent um, I feel like we should just dive right into the book shall we I think we shall.

Fabienne:

I think we shall wait, give me your first three thoughts about this book About Onyx Storm by Rebecca Yaros, by the way, oh my gosh.

Jordan:

Part one which is reading from the beginning to chapter 28. So read 28,. Stop at 29. We're discussing the first half of the book. I want you to go first.

Fabienne:

Okay, I'm going to go first. Okay, I'm going to cheat here, okay, and I'm going to use two of those three words as basically one descriptor Surprisingly good, okay. And actually in the fourth one Okay, fuck this. And more military focused. Oh, actually in the fourth one okay, fuck this, um and more military focused. That might not make complete sense maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, um, but like surprisingly good, because I wasn't expecting it to be like this um type of storyline after um iron flame. To be really completely honest with you, um, and I like how much plot heavy it is as opposed to the romance from like iron flame. So yes, why are?

Jordan:

you waiting um oh my god, you hated it I didn't hate it, oh, but I'm not enjoying it as much as I thought I would be. At this point, I do have to say the last three chapters really sucked me in, like when they went to the aisle and are like fucking around trying to find like a Goldie dragons, like family, so, and then like the how the King was like kill them all. And then like I liked that. That. I like that it's not the back and forth, like I like this conflict of zayden and violet where they can't be together because he's like venon and he like doesn't want to kill her. So I like that back and forth of the, instead of it being like like I love you, I don't love you, I love you. You just need to tell me Like. I feel like that was tough in Iron Flame. But if we were not reading this for the podcast, I'm pretty sure I would be in single digit chapters still. The only reason I was picking it up to read it was to meet this deadline today.

Fabienne:

So no it didn't work for you.

Jordan:

Yeah, but not in a like super bad way. But there were, I am thinking in my head, knowing I have to pick this up. I was like fuck, I really want to read this book. I really want to read this book right now, but I also don't want to be spoiled on anything, so, like it is good that I'm reading it. I'm just and maybe I like secretly didn't have low expectations and I still had higher ones. I am so confused with all the different characters.

Fabienne:

I swear more were introduced.

Jordan:

Also, you just sent me that reel of like how the map doesn't have any of the isles, which I agree, uh-huh. But you know his province, like Zayden's province, that was gifted back to—well, not gifted, but was given back to him. Yeah, and Lewin—I think that's how you pronounce it, it's like the l-e-w-e-l-l-e-n lewin. Um, yeah, he was. I have it here in front of me. So zayden was saying, oh, he's gonna be in charge. So this whole time I thought that was a, but apparently it's a fucking place.

Fabienne:

Okay, fair, fair. I can see the miscommunication trope happening in real life here.

Jordan:

Yes, so, but he was literally like I'm gonna have this person make decisions in my stead when I'm gone, but then it's a fucking place. So I'm like a little confused.

Fabienne:

I, yeah, okay okay, um, to be fair, when I sent you that reel I was, it was more of like a general fun thing as opposed to look at how no, I agree, I agree, I don't really look at the map.

Jordan:

Oh, I didn't either. But then, like you sending me that reel, I was like, oh, let me look at it and then I was like, wait, what the fuck is this? And I just didn't get it and I was like, oh well okay, question marks bubbling and popping up all around me.

Fabienne:

Yes, I think the reason actually, because I do agree heavily with you on the front of that. I have no idea who like 70% of the characters are, but I think that's actually and I saw this, I saw someone say this, like on their Instagram Also bless them for saying that this was not an actual like spoiler, like plot heavy spoiler, but just like a syntax thing really, if you will, where in this book, because I think that Rebecca took all of like the, the feedback, to put you know, like to put it mildly, like all of the criticism from like Iron Flame and when it like did a complete 180. So, as for Iron Flame, this one, like I said, military focus, like it's more like focus on the for iron flame, this one, like I said, military, military focus, like it's more like focus on the war that's supposed to, like that's happening or, like you know, starting to begin. Um, everyone is more now talking in rank.

Jordan:

so we have cadet soaring gale, we have cadet whatever, we have cadet x and y um, and I think that also messes up like the readers keeping track of who everyone is that I was gonna say that too, because especially when people like and that's another thing I'm not totally a fan of just because for the whole time we don't know anybody's last name like everything from the first two books was people's first names, and now to switch to last names, I'm like I only know violet and zayden's last name, and then it like you have to be careful, because then it's like lieutenant is her sister, so it is, and like when she's listing off who's going to be in her pack to go to one of those aisles yeah, she's like listing off all these people and I was like, oh, there it goes, I have no idea who any of these people are, so I do, I.

Jordan:

And then I kind of I agree with you that like makes sense, that like it took, she took the feedback and then have them. But I do, true, but I do appreciate that it is more plot focused and not like relationship focused. Like I feel like the relationship and the romance should be like a subplot and the focus should be like this war that's starting. I do still really love the relationship between Taryn and Violet. I'm sad that there was less of that in this book because I lived for that, the first and the second book. Like it was in, like it was a pretty heavy part of the first half of the second book, so I was really sad to see that Relationship Between them two Not really there for this one.

Fabienne:

As if it was like Put on a back burner, so to say. I feel like he was more of like a side character that once in a while, just like you know, pops into the scene, as opposed to like one of the actual main characters. I agree with you. I think the one scene actually where he kind of like took precedence in that sense is when they flew through this tornado. Um, I don't even know where they were actually going, but they kind of like where are you already looking for andarna? See, I thought it was adarna, like I told you, by the way, but it's like andarna or andarna, I don't have a goalie little goalie little dragon.

Fabienne:

Yeah, that one. I'm not sure why she even flew like that way, because she was alone and then all of the other writers and flyers were behind her, or something. Also, who, who is? Who is griffin graham garrick? Also, who was Griffin Graham Garrick Garrick? That's the one who was that. I completely forgot who this person was.

Jordan:

So he, I thought he was like Zayden's, like friend, but like they're equal, as in the same year, right, oh. But I know emogen, emogen, she's like scare it, because I remember violet in fourth wing really didn't like emote, emogen, emogen, yeah, imogen, because she was likeet thought she was staring at Zayden, but she was actually staring at Garrett, so that's the only reason I remember her. I do like the one-liners that Taryn would give, even throughout this one Like, especially when the king was coming out of the basket and he like, instead of like lifting his bag up, he just rips it. And Taryn's like you must have liked him for his like common sense or something like, something like that, and that was funny. Or when Zayden was like, oh, this is my consort Violet, and he's like, oh, I don't know if a congratulations or commiseration is in order, so like there were, I still laughed out loud at like certain parts he said I just wish there were more of them yeah, no, true, um, he still has like all of those sarcastic one-liners.

Fabienne:

I will say then, as opposed to him, like the, like her other dragon, I feel like she's I know that she's like plot heavy, like the, the golden dragon, like you know, where are. We are all trying to like search for her in this, like in this book, like where, like her family is like where the other dragons are, like the seventh breed, um, but I don't like her as a character in the books. She's like, she's like a tiny chihuahua, she's like chihuahua energy and I hate chihuahuas and I, I, I know. The only thing that I did like was when they were at this one king, I want to say like in one of like the, the southern isles. She got the books from like this bookstore, from her dad, and then they visited like this one king who apparently held, hauled and captive, and then andarna was holding one of the lions, tigers, panthers whatever like yeah, panthers and her like, and then just like yeah, and then, just like I'm starting to drool here, that part I I thought was kind of funny.

Fabienne:

So I I actually, yeah, I did like the. There was like actual well-placed humor in this book and that I really appreciate. And I think, like in the last one, like iron flame I don't have to say that every single time, everyone knows that the second book was iron flame um, I don't know, everything was just like a tad off, like there was too much sex, there was too much unnecessary smile at least for me, because you know it's still like opinion based in that in that way, um, the jokes were like two fours. I felt like too many storylines were just like crammed together into like one book. And I also also also I remember you saying that you thought that this series would have done better romantically wise if it were a slow burn, and I think this book is more of a slow burn type of romance as opposed to the other two.

Jordan:

No, Well, I mean yes. What I meant is like the ultimate slow burn, as in like they wouldn't have gotten together until like the fourth or fifth book, Like they would have still been like either enemies or like whatnot. But I did appreciate how their relationship grew in this book. So how they can't be together because he's going to like lose control. But when they went to the aisle with no magic they could be together. Because he's going to like lose control. But when they went to the aisle with no magic they could be together because he could not like pull anything because there was no magic, so he had no like venom in him. So I liked that they could finally be together at that point. But the thing is is like to be completely honest, like that chapter, it was like a full chapter. I just skimmed the whole thing because, like I didn't I didn't want the like to see the scene and it was like it was like a 16 minute chapter.

Jordan:

So I was like, dude, well, I was reading on my Kindle, so instead of flipping pages, I was like pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, Just skimming, just skimming just skimming, but I'm like I feel like, as I'm reading this one, I'm like I want it to be like how I felt during fourth wing, like it was just so good and I I lived for like reading the next chapter, like I needed more of it. But I don't know if it's. Maybe I like those kind of books Like I like a book where she enters like a new area, so to say, like this war college, but she was growing up to be a scribe and then she has to be like strong, not necessarily like physically strong, but mentally, and and then she comes across, she gets these drag Like I just liked that whole dynamic of the book, that this one. I do like how powerful she is in this book, though, so like she knows her power, and I like that she's not like she's grown, if that makes sense, so like she knows, it does make sense.

Jordan:

And she's like like standing her ground too. Like I appreciate that.

Fabienne:

She's basically growing more into her personality as, like a person in that sense, like in the books, yeah, as opposed to what she was like the two, you know, like two previous ones. Yeah, I feel like the character arc. Yeah, that's how you say it, right, oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, arc, I think that's. Yeah, I think that's pretty obvious, that that's been like implemented in this story and that I really do appreciate. Also for xayden, great xayden, xayden xayden.

Jordan:

Yeah, I sometimes pronounce the x, I don't know yeah, no, I feel like he's been the same, though. The thing is is like I have seen a lot of people say that they don't think forthwitten was enemies to lovers, which, not gonna lie, I can kind of see it like I don't think it was really enemies to lovers. I didn't know. It was labeled as that, though, because everybody's like it's not enemies to lovers, and I was like was it enemies to lovers? I thought like there was like a little hate to love because they didn't like yeah, but they're not like enemies, it's not like they are like on opposing sides of a war, for example exactly so I don't know.

Jordan:

But I don't know if it was labeled as enemies to lovers. But that's also because I go in blind and I read that.

Fabienne:

I don't think I actually looked up the tropes for fourth wing Me either.

Jordan:

Yeah, like I don't. Yeah, I don't know, but I do appreciate how slow-er this is happening. Like I agree with you plot-wise it's making a lot more sense, even though I still have no idea what the fuck is going on with all these people now that you mentioned that, um, I'm blanking wait, so we're halfway through now.

Fabienne:

Yeah, yeah what has actually happened so far. We are 253 pages in if you take the paperback. Oh, like, what is what has actually happened? So he sometimes loses more control of himself.

Jordan:

He killed he killed all those people in um, that one of the southern isles that has no magic. He killed all the guards because they were gonna kill or they were gonna hurt violet. So then violet had to step in and be like okay, cover your face, we're gonna fix this. And I feel like that's where it ended.

Fabienne:

And then I don't know also who Takaris is.

Jordan:

I think he's. He's just like one of the people. He's like the head dude of one of the aisles in between, that aisle with no magic, and like the war college. So they're using his home as like a home base to find an arm, kind of like ironic though, like how much I am.

Fabienne:

Here we go again with the word appreciate. You know all of more of the military terms and like ranks and whatnot, but I have half the time I am just like whoop. I don't know who that person is, you know.

Jordan:

Right, right. But also too, like we know she writes military romances, so we know she knows all these military terms. Why not just start with it? I feel like if she would have started with fourth wing and started these military terms, and especially Violet, not being a writer, could be learning those things, and then we could have learned those things. Yeah, like I don't know the difference. All I know is a cadet is like the people still in school, which makes sense, but then the difference between a lieutenant and a captain, I don't fucking know no, me neither, but I feel like the only only cadet that I know is cadet kelly.

Fabienne:

Such a good movie, such a good movie she's not in this one, though, no but we pretend we can't pretend.

Jordan:

Yes, yes, yes, we do, but I just, I don't know. I yeah, I still like. No, I still want justice for liam. I'm sad he's gone. Rebecca yaros has no problem, just fucking killing people off, though, no, gary. No, gary Was his name Gary. Maybe it wasn't.

Fabienne:

Gary, gary's still alive.

Jordan:

No, the one you want to know what's behind him? No, no, no, no, no. Aura lit him on fire because she thought he was Venom when they went to that house. Oh yes, I think his name was Gary. Like lit him on fire because she thought he was venin when they were went to that house. Oh yes, I think his name, oh yeah. And then the venin killed warah.

Jordan:

I was like oh damn, rebecca, except those works really fast on those aisles there right, but those people like don't matter because they're just like true, like you know, like that, I feel like we didn't build this like relationship with them, so it's like off with their heads.

Fabienne:

I don't really care. You know it's like when, when you're like when you're watching like a series and you are like from the very beginning you're invested with like those very you know original characters, and then season three comes along and you're like if one of the like, if one of those people dies, I don't give a shit, you're new, you don't matter. It's the same with this book. You know, if a new character is introduced, I'm like I don't have a feeling toward you.

Jordan:

Have you seen Game of Thrones?

Fabienne:

I have watched it indirectly, like Jay watched it when it came out back in the day and I was like incredibly active on Tumblr and I would have like fin fin blocks and the walking that was on there and, um, game of thrones, even though I didn't watch it, but I kept up to date with like the series through like tumblr. So I I basically know it.

Jordan:

Yes, I haven't watched it but I watched it like way, like when all the seasons were like out. I then watched it. But what I was thinking is like how, basically, you love all these characters. And then the Red Wedding comes and you're like, well, god damn, george R R Martin. But so I was thinking that like, at least you're like invested in these characters, like how we were invested in Liam, which, granted, everybody who's listening to this, I hope you read Fourth Wing and Iron Flame before reading Onyx Storm. But yeah, so I feel like the the death of him hit harder than the death of her mom. At the end of Iron Flame, I was like, don't care. And then here you kill off these two people. It doesn't matter, because like I don't care. And then here you kill off these two people. It doesn't matter Because, like I don't care about them.

Fabienne:

It actually doesn't. I will say that the coming back to like the head being served at like Courtland's table, yeah, that was kind of gruesome, even though, like I didn't like the character before. I think no, wait, because she was already killed by the Venon. No, that was Ora Wait who was beheaded.

Jordan:

Wait who? That was Holland Halden's like personal guard. So he brought somebody with him, so it was his guard that was beheaded and like and then that. But I I agree that was gruesome because then taken out of like they lifted the caps or the of like the dishes off and then like the raw meat was there for his cats, his like pet cats, and then they just like ate them. Yeah, I think he was like he's like crazy, but I don't, I'm fucking nuts man.

Fabienne:

But then violet comes in and saves today. Yes, oh wait. Do you always like actively read, like, the like, the little like text before the chapter header? I do like the, the correspondence and everything.

Jordan:

I do.

Fabienne:

I know that we are not supposed to read Chapter 29, but I have it obviously right in front of me and I'm not going to like dive into like the text itself, but just like a name stood out to me and I haven't really come across. Wait, let me, I'm fucking this up.

Jordan:

Wait, let me fucking this up.

Fabienne:

We only found out what Violet's dad's name was in this book and it's Asher. Yeah, yeah. And so, for example, here, chapter 23,. There's like this entire text, whatever, whatever, and it says by Lieutenant Colonel Asher Sorengale, and now I see here by Second Lieutenant Asher Daxton. Does Rebecca have like two Ashers? She has like an entire skull of names in her arsenal and she takes two names Like two of the same names. Is this the same person?

Jordan:

Wait, wait. So chapter 23 has Asher Sorengale, right? Okay, which I didn't. To be completely honest, I didn't know. Lieutenant could be above in front of a name that wasn't a writer, though Like that confused me because he was a scribe Me too, so maybe that sort of has to give us insight that there was more to the man.

Fabienne:

Question mark.

Jordan:

Maybe or because. I don't know question mark maybe, or because I don't know, or it's like see the thing is, is like, sometimes it kind of like, it's like from after reading, iron flame yeah it's tough. Okay, you know how I'm gonna be.

Jordan:

It is tough brutally on us here, but you know like sarah j ma she like says something and you're like, oh, like you know, like whatever she's saying she meant to say and you can read into it here after, especially after reading iron flame. I don't know if that's just like a fuck up on rebecca yaros' part or if that's actually something to pay attention to, because I could see that just being a fuck up. That I'm like yeah yeah, so what chapter did you say that the other Asher was? That wasn't chapter 28.

Fabienne:

Chapter 29 was sorry. Chapter 23 was done with Asher Sorengil and chapter 28 is Asher Daxton Interesting, but then it's also like he has like a different rank, so maybe this was before. Yeah.

Jordan:

Yeah.

Fabienne:

So did he take Lilith's last name.

Jordan:

Or oh, I was going to say maybe he had a different last name because maybe he's from that aisle and he left that aisle and then he changed that yeah, so I don't know okay, wait, I want to circle back to like, uh, what you said.

Fabienne:

Like, whenever sarah j maz like put something in her books, you kind of have to read into it because it will make sense, like for the plot later in the book, so like in the series. Um, I feel the same because, especially when it was noted that mira, myra mira, like, took some personal time off for forever in her career, I'm like is this, is this information like that we should like stash away? Is this like necessary information? Also, I feel like Brennan is pretty much on the background and I think that it's weird. That sentence came out really really weird as well. Um, I don't know what is up with brennan. I don't know really what is up with mira, because I feel like, after, I think, found out that your brother apparently is alive for the entire being, that you thought he was dead. There would be more, I don't know connection or like you know, dialogue, interaction, you name it, but you know among those characters.

Jordan:

But and they just, well, I think mira like hates him for like lying, I think so. I think she that's like why there's no dialogue, she like doesn't want to talk to him fair.

Jordan:

So there, I think that's that. But like I feel like if I was him, I would be trying to talk to my sister. I mean, like talk to me, bitch, but he's like go do your own thing, I guess I'll go do my own thing over here. So it is kind of. But I do agree, it's almost like these characters that are supposed to be so important and have like taken a Back burner on it, but it's also it's like really weird Because they're also back at this War college. But they're also back at this war college but they're also like trying to like start this like revolution of like killing this Venon, but then the war college people also know about this Venon and this like revolution, Like it's like I don't really know what's going on.

Jordan:

And Fourth Wing was so simple and I think it was. So I think this, as I'm continuing this series, I don't think it's very fleshed out. To be completely honest, I think the simplicity behind Fourth Wing was perfect because it's a first book, but, as we should be getting more information, we're not and the series is trying to continue at the simplicity level, if that makes sense, but it it shouldn't and it can't rebecca a for effort honey yes, a for fucking effort.

Fabienne:

A for fucking effort.

Jordan:

So I'm like getting like I don't know, I don't know, I'm hoping the second half is really good. I don't know.

Fabienne:

Fingers crossed, but also not fingers crossed, because that would mean that you get your hopes up and you don't want to have your hopes up because you could already be crushed down.

Jordan:

Do you have any predictions? Slash theories so far? Oh, I have seen some people. I don't, I think because of how I feel of the first half I haven't really thought that far ahead. But I have seen other people. They think that Zayden is going to memory, erase Violet memory of him. So they won't, she won't remember him. I've seen a lot of theories about that. Uh-huh, that's all I really got. What about you? Do you have any theories?

Fabienne:

Me personally, no, because I'm not creative like that, but I did see someone on Instagram say this Um that they suspect that, um, violet has this weird bonding like with two dragons and possibly has like a second signet oh, I have over hair because her mother was venin when she gave birth.

Jordan:

To violet oh, I, yeah, I have seen that. Oh, that's true. I've also seen people say that they thinket can see dead people, that that has some way. A second signet thing, which I don't know how that would be like, but like rebecca yaros told us or showed us about venin in the first book, because jack barlow, like before they would have fought in one of their like, um, like things in the classroom, like battled, like violet and him, there's a moment in time where violet's like he has red around his eyes, like you almost think he's, like she's explaining it to be like he's tired, like his eyes are red. Oh, yeah, I think that's Rebecca telling us that he was actually just turned Venom then in the first book, but we don't know about Venom yet.

Jordan:

So I thought that was cool, but I haven't reread the first one, or iron flame, so I don't, I can't comment on that, but I feel like that would be really cool, like that almost makes me think of sarah j mass and like the first book of throne of glass, like leading you into like the rest. So I thought that was cool, if that actually is the case, but I don't know. But I have seen because, like you know how, when they went to the Isle. With no magic, violet could still talk to Taryn and Arnarn, but like nobody else could talk to their animals and like the dragons couldn't talk to each other. So like a lot of people were saying, like that has something to do either with like the second signet or like the yeah, just the second signet. Hmm, the second signet, or like the yeah, just the second signet. Do you think she'll find Inarna's family In this book?

Fabienne:

Okay, statistically speaking, seeing how she did like with the last two books, then I think yes, because like, basically, like the entire storyline for this book is defined that family. So yeah, but since she has like what five, six books in this series, I think there's five planned.

Jordan:

I hope not I hope not.

Fabienne:

I hope not, or at least like it ends on a cliffhanger, which I would hate.

Jordan:

But I would find that a better solution than to like them like finding her dragon family, I do appreciate the endings in the sense of like her finding out her brother was alive at the end of fourth wing was a complete twist for me. I didn't see that one coming, but I did see Zayden turning Ben in, like a mile away, but I still enjoyed that ending. So I feel like Rebecca will follow that same formula and there will be some type of ending to this one. I don't know what, but I I am like I've been seeing things on instagram which I appreciate. Everybody that's been posting onyx storm. They like say spoiler, like spoiler warning. So I just keep scrolling, but I I do think something will happen. I just don't know. It just like it makes me so sad because I feel like this series has so much potential, so much potential.

Fabienne:

Maybe the second half will pick it up for you.

Jordan:

Maybe, maybe, because I do have to say those like last three chapters, from like 25 to the end of 28, were like I'm like okay, okay, I wanted to keep reading they just had like they were just more packed.

Fabienne:

You know, like everything was action story.

Jordan:

I don't know I guess sometimes I don't like how it jumps, like there's parts where a chapter will start right where the last one ended and then there's other times where it jumps like two weeks.

Fabienne:

Yeah, I don't love that yeah, the inconsistency like with the time timing, and that I don't like either and, like you said before too, I still find it a little bit weird with everything going on in this like world right now, like with the war that's looming like over them. You know them in search for, or like the rebel squad or the quest squad is what rydeck, rydeck, rydeck called it. Um, there's like so many side quests and, like you said, they are still basically in like in school.

Jordan:

Yeah, I find a little strange that's what's like, I think, kind of confusing me, like they're still in school, I don't. I don't know, it's like a little. It's like a little weird. I could actually see it ending with like one of the venon people like that tier, non, non, non, non, like taking her.

Fabienne:

You know which who I'm talking about the one also was so yeah, also one with the silver hair and who can wield lightning yes I think that's. I think that's why people think that viola's mother might have been like a venin, or you know, or maybe that maybe that was her mom, maybe, maybe asher jack was with somebody before Violet's mom, oh my God.

Jordan:

And then this Lilith is not really her mom and that's why she can't kill her, even though she says it's because I'm going to train you. But what if it is like that's her mom and like Asher, what a ton of worms.

Fabienne:

Oh my God.

Jordan:

Oh my God. But that would make sense, because Rebecca didn't want us to get attached to Lilith, why she killed her off so fast. So maybe Lilith really isn't her mom.

Fabienne:

Interesting, interesting.

Jordan:

So many things. I think this is also too like. I think I'm just gonna read, like, no matter what, even if I don't totally love this book, I think I will forever, like I will finish this series. Like I think every time a new book comes out, have you been seeing those things like people will so. Like on the release of this one that Tuesday, like so many people were excited for it. Like, don't get me wrong, I was excited. Still, like I feel like I have I like need to feel something. So like having this release was me feeling something. But because the last time I felt something was for Sarah J Maas and like she isn't releasing anything anytime soon.

Jordan:

But have you seen like a lot of people also will say, um, like a lot of people were like, oh, onyx Storm is out today. It's like not my kind of book, but I'm super excited for everyone else to read it. Or the people that are super excited to read it, like I'm excited for you, but they all like they're all prefacing this with like it's not my kind of book, but I'm excited for you to have this like release. But I I'm kind of interested on why it's not some people's book like they'll finish fourth like they read fourth wing. They finished it, but the book's not for them, so I'm so I'm like, okay, did you read a book that's like this but better Like? Can you let me know Should I read it?

Fabienne:

Yeah, can you just like give me recommendations then, please, instead of just saying how happy you are for me to read this, because I need the other books too, because you know we need to feel something.

Jordan:

Exactly yeah, so I like know we need to do something, exactly yeah, so I I like please help a girl out, but I actually have a potential book for you, maybe then just, but I'll, we'll discuss that obviously after this one oh, okay, okay, but yeah. So I'm like very curious, like I don't, I don't know. I'm just like I'm going to finish the second half and I'm going to finish it fast because there's books I actually want to read. But I'm excited.

Fabienne:

We did this for the podcast though, because honestly, me too, like you said, like I think, like in the beginning, like the first two chapters, like, say, the first six, seven chapters, I was like I'm not really sure if I can finish this for the podcast. But then you say that you powered through. I'm like girl, you know what? I'm glad I did too, because generally I'm enjoying it, but we should be proud.

Fabienne:

we should be proud, yes, but wait, I was going somewhere with this. No, I'm enjoying it, but you know if for it, you know hypothetical here. If I were to just close this book now and would not finish it, I will be fine too, but I am still like interested to see what comes next.

Jordan:

Yeah, like I think at this point, like I do want to like To invest it.

Fabienne:

You know halfway through.

Jordan:

I do want to like to invest it. You know, halfway through I think I just have like mixed feelings though, because I feel like I am with you, like I could put this down and never pick it up again, but knowing that I could be spoiled if I do that makes me also want to read it like I don't like. Ever since we've been spoiled for the house of breath and sky, or you, I was spoiled, I don't think you were, thank god no, but I lived vicariously through you in that anger like fuck people so I feel like now I like don't want that to happen again.

Jordan:

So there's like certain books that I need to read right away and I know too, like as soon as we're done recording, I'm like I'm gonna pick this up just to finish it.

Fabienne:

Girl, me too, then I just hope that we can record fairly soon too, I know, because I can't wait X many days, x many weeks to talk to you about it, I know.

Jordan:

But at least we'll have it done, so then we won't be spoiled for it.

Fabienne:

That's very true, so shall we continue reading then? I think we shall. Thank you so much for listening.

Jordan:

And please don't forget to rate and review wherever you can find us.

Fabienne:

So catch you next time. Bye.